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Agree with everything said. Nigel can distance himself and the party from Tommy Robinson without it looking like an attack on the man. Rupert Lowe did this in a post of his own recently that was perfect. That would literally be enough to stop the infighting which we really could do without.

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Whilst I appreciate the points being made here, at the same time, this is the 'old model' of doing politics. This is a backward looking view on how to win.

Public trust in corporate media has never been lower. We are over 4 years away from the next election. What Reform should arguably be doing now is grabbing that Overton Window and running as far as they can down field.

Look at the people who are actually winning, and then bringing real change — it's Trump, Milei, Bukele, etc.

They did not win by cosying up to the corrupt media and institutions, and "moderating" and "compromising", or distancing themselves from "disfavoured" people. They won by sticking 2 fingers up to those power bases, and inviting the public to help them kick the doors in and clean house.

Nigel and Reform are trying to win an election how you would do so 20 years ago. That time is over. We now live in an age of public rage and instant messaging. Trust in the media has never been lower. Kowtowing to them to appear "moderate" is a fool's errand — they will call you racist anyway, so you might as well stand for something.

Trump understands the media better than Nigel (that you must lead *them*, and never let them lead *you*).

And Trump has a superpower that Farage is yet to develop: Not giving a toss what 'fancy folks' think of him, or whether they are frothing at the mouth.

Trump won by widening the discourse, not by staying within the 'polite parameters'. He would lob verbal grenades that blew open the Overton Window, and sent the media into abject hysterics... which was a twofer: the public would think 'Hmm, you know he's got a point there'... and the media would reveal themselves to be both reactionary and very ridiculous.

Nigel still wants to be *liked*, and to win within the parameters of 'polite society'. He will have to shed this weakness if he wants to lead the nation out of the mess we are in.

We're in serious trouble, this is the last chance saloon. We cannot have men who fold when offered 'deals' into the private club (as he did with Brexit Party), or who will back off the point when the media screech insults at him (as he did with UKIP).

There is no time left for playing a gentleman's game, on his enemy's terms. This is the time for men with backbone, who've shed their own egos in order to do something much greater than being liked. LEAD.

Trump won twice (probably 3 times if we're being honest about 2020). His win this time was far bigger than the last time, despite being the most hated and pilloried man in corporate media history. He has not softened any his stances, in fact his rhetoric and policy positioning on immigration has hardened considerably since 2016, when he won the first time. And as he moved from 'deport criminals' to 'deport all illegals' he actually gained more minority votes.

There's a lesson in there, for anyone observant.

Playing the pander-bear does not work. Someone will always outbid your pandering.

Pick a position, based on a clear principle, and then hammer it. Do not compromise, do not 'soften'. Keep hammering your agenda, and ignore the media hysteria. It's not real. It's not the media who vote — it's the public. And the public want a strong leader who will go to the power centres, kick the doors in, and fight for them. They do not need more wishy washy, pandering, sway-in-the-wind leadership.

If Nigel wants to run Reform like Tories 2.0 (same incompetence, 10% more rhetorical gusto) then he will fail.

He will never again have an opportunity like this one. Reform are 4 years out from an election, facing a government who are angering the public and digging their own grave daily. The Tories have shown no sign of getting their sh*t together. Now is the time to grab that Overton Window and start running. Start throwing grenades into the media cycle, staking out the most *extreme version* of their position.

Take a lesson from Trump and Milei.

Politics is negotiation, and you can't win a negotiation by compromising in the first round (ie before election). You have to stake out a *more extreme* position than you intend to land on, knowing that once elected you will have to make some compromises to push that agenda thru (see: Trump, right now). British politicians, particularly on the right, still don't get this. They don't understand how to negotiate to win.

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